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OP BLACKOUT
Okay so after speaking to JackDaniels i thought of the idea of OP SHADE


This would consist of a small recon team finding out how the vanduul comunicate and how we can destroy it.

Therefore putting them in the dark.(hence the name BLACKOUT)

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  • Last Edit: February 19, 2014, 01:46:04 PM by danibo160

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Uhh?! When did this Conversation Occur?

Actually if we are to be smashing Communication centers.... I would called it Operation Blackout.
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Ah! Nice!

We talked yesterday! remember the mystery buck?


Did you get him?

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Most likely they use courier ships. A satellite network like the one the UEE has wouldn't make much sense for a nomadic race (not even considering the fact that hordes attack each other).

That or some kind of new communications technology that hasn't been revealed.

In any case, unless it's quantum communications, it's got to go through the jump-points, so that'd be the best place to start looking..
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Great so you forgot to give the commo guy the memo.

Sure we can roll in and demo the comm arrays. but will need a mixed taskforce. ghost&tracker hornets or any other ship that is modded for this mission.

my idea on this is you send in the ghosts first then the trackers when ghosts have swept the area. I don't want to draw attention to the recon force that's inbound, sneaky ops.. if your gonna go loud and waste everything be my guest.  ill update my idea after work,


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You both raise valid points, we could see if we should talk with the recon teams and see if they will collect data for us aswell

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I will add the idea to the list of researchable ideas i'm currently compiling for future data analysis  :), it would indeed be interesting to see if communication can be taken out and if Vanduul response times are longer as a result.

Though, this is one of the aspects where it is easy for CIG to 'cheat' with gameplay mechanics

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In relation to this possible operation a piece of intelligence was just released

Gentlemen one of your potential future targets (in comparison of the Idris):


Though as with al things, it may change during development.

Seeing it's size, I hope communications is a hardpoint that can be destroyed, otherwise it might need gladiator bombers to take it down quick
  • Last Edit: February 20, 2014, 06:42:53 AM by Marcus ImpaleMan

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wow what? look at the size of that!

Thanks for posting, personally i thought they would have delivery boys sending their measages but that!


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To be honest, I also expected some kind of a Vanduul M50 to deliver massages.

However, this 'Lightfire' cannot be just a simple courier - it must be some kind of a true communication hub for an entire fleet or an entire system. Maybe, it's a command and control ship, not just for the military, but also for the economy. Just think of the harvesters.

Anyhow, I bet these ships will be rare and heavily guarded by fighters and capships.

So if we can hit some, we'll need to be fast and deathly. I guess, this won't work without torpedoes.

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OK... well I took some time to read out a few additional notes...

In the event Recon teams do happen to come across them after we have learned the roles of the ships in SQ42... we could essentially do this... its just that the variables of how the game will role out are large. But, this could be a small pin in it.

Granted seeing that it may take a Bomber wing to take it out... I am sure that right then your already lost your chance of surprise one's you gotta call in the bombers.
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JD your right about the surprise element but what if we can locate the main chain and knock them out simultaneously?


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I don't see that a simultaneous strike at every communications hub would be remotely feasible, even with our numbers that would probably take a massive percentage of the total fleet. I'd say that the Lightfires should be high on our target list but I don't think we can afford to put them at the absolute top like that, essentially take them out if at all possible but don't throw away resources hunting down every last one.

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wow what? look at the size of that!

Thanks for posting, personally i thought they would have delivery boys sending their measages but that!


It's not that big. :-P

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I don't see that a simultaneous strike at every communications hub would be remotely feasible, even with our numbers that would probably take a massive percentage of the total fleet. I'd say that the Lightfires should be high on our target list but I don't think we can afford to put them at the absolute top like that, essentially take them out if at all possible but don't throw away resources hunting down every last one.


That is why we need your team to simply find and identify them first without destroying them (or other ships for that matter if it can be avoided), so that based on your gathered intell we can ascertain their numbers and positions and then make plans.  :)

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That is why we need your team to simply find and identify them first without destroying them (or other ships for that matter if it can be avoided), so that based on your gathered intell we can ascertain their numbers and positions and then make plans.  :)


The task is on my radar, only a matter of time till they are.

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Hmmm... This could make for a great cooperation between Spec Ops And Recon what do you think?

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The task is on my radar, only a matter of time till they are.


Indeed, can't wait to chrunch data  :) there might just be one comm ship in each system or there might be more depending on the number of vanduul strike forces in system (or none at all). It would really depend on what they actually do... If you and the scouts would be willing to do identifications and if we we can find flight patterns from that data we might not have to search for them too much when we try to surgically take them out at the same time, at least in the 'frontline' systems... or it might even be better to not take them out at all and just do a quick attack and see if the Vanduul come running potentially leaving other targets less defended.

What is also something very important that scout and recon could do: find 'easy' targets to practice on how many torpedos are needed to blow them up.  :)
  • Last Edit: February 21, 2014, 07:27:03 AM by Marcus ImpaleMan

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Hm... ever thought of capturing a 'Lighthouse' and use it against them?  8)

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Nope. But a class 9 power mech through the bridge sounds fun

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Hm... ever thought of capturing a 'Lighthouse' and use it against them?  8)


It is on one of the potential plans... but again that is still to early to say .... Hell we still have a full year before we can even get a feel for the game through SQ42.. heck DFM we will learn much about the abilities we can do with the ships and the mechanics of the Module once its launched... granted we will still be doing bug reports.

Personally if we do manage to capture a communication ship... we could have a short window to finding out the communications and intel that they have gathered on Earth and Pitchfork!

But, any who stick a pin in it for now... potential Spec-Ops team and Recon Coordination is agreed. But we still gotta find out the mechanics of the game before we can attempt viable plan.
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as we can see a bengal will help ALOT!

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Given the small size of the comms ships....I wonder if a fighter ripple-firing dumbfire missiles can take one out. DFs traditionally trade seeking capability for payload, so they're perfect to use on pickets, escorts, and the like. Also saves the torp bombers for the cap ships.
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Given the small size of the comms ships....I wonder if a fighter ripple-firing dumbfire missiles can take one out. DFs traditionally trade seeking capability for payload, so they're perfect to use on pickets, escorts, and the like. Also saves the torp bombers for the cap ships.


SMALL!!!

this idea is a ideal one as SpecOps consists of fighters/ explorers

We got them onboard too! Now for recon

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In relation to this possible operation a piece of intelligence was just released

Gentlemen one of your potential future targets (in comparison of the Idris):


Though as with al things, it may change during development.

Seeing it's size, I hope communications is a hardpoint that can be destroyed, otherwise it might need gladiator bombers to take it down quick


We may want to think of this not as a quick destroy but as a covert ops mission to find and capture one of these ships and bring it back to see how they communicate.  Ghost Hornets and a few Cutlass's with boarding parties could do the job.

Thought, that may be how they function as a fighting force with out relay stations, the physical message drone system that CR talked about in the latest 10 for the Chairman.  These ships may be like mobile relays so when the horde moves on to a different system they can pack up and move with them.
  • Last Edit: February 26, 2014, 04:08:47 PM by Bzerker01