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Operation: Pitchfork as a Star Citizen Org questions.
A couple of questions about Op: Pitchfork as an RSI Organization:

1) Will forkers be required to join to participate? Several guilds have "one guild only" membership requirements.

2) Just out of curiosity, what was the reason for registering as an Org: Private chat room, private forum, ability to identify other forkers at RSI, etc.?

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1) No. In fact, that's why it's currently closed: to keep people from thinking they have to decide between the org they want to join and Pitchfork. Right now, the org system is set up so you can only join one organization. That will change in the future, but for now, the system is too restrictive to account for most players.

2) Lots of reasons. To keep other people from making an Operation Pitchfork org to try to con people. To set things up so we can have it be all nice when it's opened up officially later. Later, but before the launch of OP, to help coordinate pre-OP actions. And yeah, everything you said.

That said, I have nothing to do with the org yet. Just saying what I've heard and what I assume.

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Kightcrawler is spot on. That's why we've got them. Also, after Operation Pitchfork is completed, we're likely to keep the organization around, but recruiting will be permanently closed. So it will be like a "Veterans Of Pitchfork" thing where we can see who participated long after it's over.

My Organization, The Skjaldborg, also has a one organization only rule, but we're likely going to make an exception for OPPF, since it's less "Organization" and more "Event."

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I don't understand the one org rule. It's unnecessarily restrictive and more likely to turn people off than encourage joining. The only situation where it makes ANY sense at all is if you say only one hardcore org. Saying a person can't join a casual RP org or an org of RL friends out of some paranoid sense of elitism is just absurd.

Sorry for the rant.
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The one org rule (not talking about policies of any individual orgs out there) is not really a rule but a circumstance of how the CIG teams are building the organization functions on the server. Right now we have an operational function, but it is a foundation to add programming functions later for more options.

Think of the Org system as a basic working model undergoing stress testing. Once it has been tested and everything is confirmed as working properly, more options and vercitility will be added later on.

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The one org rule (not talking about policies of any individual orgs out there) is not really a rule but a circumstance of how the CIG teams are building the organization functions on the server. Right now we have an operational function, but it is a foundation to add programming functions later for more options.

Think of the Org system as a basic working model undergoing stress testing. Once it has been tested and everything is confirmed as working properly, more options and vercitility will be added later on.


I'm not talking about the 1.0 Orgs... Some orgs actually have a rule that you can't join any other orgs...
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Reply #6
Hi Guys,
I would have answered these questions myself but I didn't realise this thread was here. Good discussion, here's a link to the "official" (as much as we have that anyway) thread https://operationpitchfork.com/forums/index.php?topic=675.0
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I'm not talking about the 1.0 Orgs... Some orgs actually have a rule that you can't join any other orgs...


Well, those organizations are primarily concerned with loyalty. They'll be in for a rude awakening when the org system is fully-fledged. Merchants' Guild? Mercenaries' Guild? Bounty Hunter Guild? Militia units? All of those will be organizations too.
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I'm not talking about the 1.0 Orgs... Some orgs actually have a rule that you can't join any other orgs...


If one org is a 'lawful' group they don't want people joining groups of pirates or pirates infiltrating their groups so easily.  I think a lot of the groups will open up when things like the NPC guilds and associations are around, but still I gather they will stay restrictive because they don't want divided loyalties in their group.

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Organizations often have a no cross membership rule to prevent a conflict of interests. If they two bridged orgs had a disagreement, the person bridging would be in a bit of a squeeze, no?

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Now that multiple Orgs. are online on RSI, I have a question about joining:

Why are there two Orgs. - PITCHFORK and OPPF - and why is one closed? I guess I have to join the one that is open for applications, but I don't understand the reason to have two Orgs. Will one of them be for other Orgs. and the other for lone wolves?

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It was to make sure we managed to grab at least one of them before someone else did. We're tossing around ideas for what to do with the second one for the most part now.

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Ok, thanks.

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No problem.

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Out of curiosity, what's the policy on orgs that have maintained themselves as exclusive? I assume they're allowed to join, but that seems like it will make coordination more difficult.

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The mission is open to everyone who wishes to take part, and there is no requirement that anyone has to join any org at all. The Org system may have some tools available, but people can find ways of working together without those tools as well. There are many lone wolves out there who will invent their own methods and styles of taking part, and there will no doubt be flight groups that accept pilots looking to fly along side others regardless of what org they are in.

Coordination may be as simple as finding a troopship or bomber and escorting it to wherever it is going.

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Operation Pitchfork is a day in history, a mission, I personally don't think it should be an organization. Unless put inside an Organization to tell its history.
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Technically it is not so much of an organization as an "I will be/was there" club, hangout, or movement. But the org system is all we have to work with. There is a big difference between a "Union of Fighter & Bomber Pilots: Vanduul Front #127" and an ad hoc "Bacon Makin' Club."

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Maybe, technically, everyone should join it when we go to start the attack? That way we can group easier?
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That's kinda the idea
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Maybe, technically, everyone should join it when we go to start the attack? That way we can group easier?



That's kinda the idea


I don't understand ... what idea?
Is the plan that everyone should sign up on the Org. page when the operation is about to start, so that we can begin grouping then?

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I don't understand ... what idea?
Is the plan that everyone should sign up on the Org. page when the operation is about to start, so that we can begin grouping then?


Join the organization so grouping is easier and deciphering who is friendly and who is not is more obvious. But only for the attack.
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Still not sure I understand ... but I guess from your latest reply that the join time is not an issue, as I first thought.

Are you saying that those who join the Org. page are more likely to be friendly towards OP, and are also more likely to allow being grouped?

BTW, I thought OP was formed only for this attack on the Vanduul?
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Well yes and no, everyone who wants to join and organize may do so in their own way by joining the org or outside it with any outfit they choose. However it is a place where we all can meet and discuss plans and start organizing

As for being an org only for the attack, I personally would like it if it was also a sort of veteran's club afterwards ;-)

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Still not sure I understand ... but I guess from your latest reply that the join time is not an issue, as I first thought.

Are you saying that those who join the Org. page are more likely to be friendly towards OP, and are also more likely to allow being grouped?

BTW, I thought OP was formed only for this attack on the Vanduul?



What;s hard to understand? There will be less cross-fire. If we don't join, we will be the equivalent of random spacers and we may not realize "this person is fighting with me." because we do expect some people to come and crash our party.

With "This person is in the org," it should mean "there's a 98% chance they won't shoot me on purpose." Also, depending on abilities of being in am organization, we might be able to warp to each other, find each other, communicate entirely easier, etc etc
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