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General Boarding Discussion - Katamari
Alright, so heres that this thread is for.
All boarding ship pilots please report here and list openings.

THIS IS AN EXAMPLE:
Ship: Freelancer
Pilot/boarding: Silverowl
Gunner/boarding: *Position open*
Boarding: *Position open*
Boarding: *Position open*
Boarding: *Position open*
Boarding: *Position open*
Boarding: *Position open*
Boarding: *Position open*

If you are interested in joining a person's crew for boarding or such, please PM them.  Thank you.  (Also, I am not going to be on boarding duties, it was an example)
  • Last Edit: October 12, 2015, 04:57:06 PM by mediaflare

Re: Boarding Teams and Assault Shuttle Crew Muster Point
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ready for boarding duty!
nothing like getting up close and personal with the aliens!

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Happy to pilot a boarding craft and lead or participate in a boarding action!

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Caterpillar captain here ready for boarding ops or S&R/repair duties.
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Re: Boarding Teams and Assault Shuttle Crew Muster Point
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Skwi, we're putting the bear and the space hamster in your Caterpillar. They won't fit in my Freelancer.

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I'll take the bear, but you keep that demon rodent away from me.
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How did I end up being in charge of this thing?!?

*runs off to find more mead to feed it*

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I've stated multiple times that taking over a Vanduul carrier is one of my main goals. My Connie stands at the ready!

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I'll buy a space-beer and bacon-sandwich for any crew that successfully takes a Vanduul carrier!

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For any crew that takes a Vanduul carrier, I'll make them one of these.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Xc5wIpUenQ

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Here is how my reaction to that went down:

;)  Oh I know about this.  I've seen it before.

:o  Wait? Quail? More birds?

;D  This is amazing! I want one!

???  THERE IS A PIG NOW!?!

:'(  It's so beautiful...

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Given that you can't send food to NZ, will you fly over here to make it for me if I take that Carrier for you? :P

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Here is how my reaction to that went down:

;)  Oh I know about this.  I've seen it before.

:o  Wait? Quail? More birds?

;D  This is amazing! I want one!

???  THERE IS A PIG NOW!?!

:'(  It's so beautiful...


Haha, yeah, it's pretty epic.


Given that you can't send food to NZ, will you fly over here to make it for me if I take that Carrier for you? :P


Sure!*

*Shipping and handling fees may apply to this offer.

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Sounds good to me, one Bengal, courtesy of DUSCC coming right up :D

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Haha, great!

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I vote we make this the official "Space Ration" for our crews during OP! :)
שם טוב ולא להיבחר מאשר עושר גדול, ואוהב לטובת ולא כסף וזהב. kJV Proverbs 22:1

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Alright, I'm putting together a team to try to take a Vanduul carrier. Who's in??

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Alright, I'm putting together a team to try to take a Vanduul carrier. Who's in??

I'm in however, seeing the present state of the game...and, our lack of inter-outfit coordination...i suggest at least reducing the first initial conquest being a "Harvester Driller" (which is an "escort" carrier) first! Smaller even better! Our organization will be going for a Harvester at some point period. Then we can discuss the outcome of that. :) ?
What do you think of that?
This will let us get our feet wet and get used to working together coop/interoutfit and maybe successfully sacking a prize without them Selfdestructing it first.
We still don't even know at this point if CIG will have which Vanduul ships to a "flyable" state which means we may not be able to take it over! I believe they will have the smaller ready first. Maybe.
שם טוב ולא להיבחר מאשר עושר גדול, ואוהב לטובת ולא כסף וזהב. kJV Proverbs 22:1

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This thread will be used to discuss boarding procedure once a ship is disabled and we can put boots in the door. We can also discuss effective clearing procedure from room to room, as well as primary objectives.

This is only discussion, as we know very little right now, and even when we do, we can't force anyone to follow the plan. That being said, those orgs that want to do done serious business, and are willing to pull the weight to get the job done can help plan official tactics and organize teams for boarding parties so we can get ourselves some Vanduul Tech!



Now onto my two cents to start:

We don't know too much about how Vanduul ships work. We do, however, know that they have their own "Cole Protocol" in effect (ie: self destruct if in danger of capture). Assuming we can get a boarding party in before they hit the big red button, we will need to secure the bridge and power stains ASAP. That means there might be a bit of a chaotic run once through the doors to make sure that doesn't happen, THEN proceed to sweep and clear each room.

I also want to bring up at this point, that if possible, some non-lethal weapons might be a good idea, seeing how taking prisoners would be just as rare of a catch as the ship itself. Only if possible, don't risk lives to capture prisoners if it hinders the op.

I'll make a part again later showing some of my ideas for room clearing and team training, but I also want to hear from you guys. also I'll start a thread or two so we can get a handle on how many people will take part in this effort, as well as maybe a spreadsheet to figure out what this specific division will be working with

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Re: Boarding Teams and Assault Shuttle Crew Muster Point
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Indeed live specimens would be most helpful, between IRADAC getting intel and studying the specimens physiology we could gain a lot of information about the Vanduul. We should be wary of a few things however, first and foremost what will a Vanduul do to avoid capture eg would they go so far as suicide for example? Another thing to think about is even if we do capture one, would we need a translator and if so who would act as such?

As for the boarding action itself causing them to initiate self destruct, we should also consider that they have an automated self destruct as backup, either linked to the mere presence of alien life forms in critical systems areas or perhaps even to the Vitals of the Vanduul themselves aboard the ship.

Just some ideas to consider of course but figured it was worth pointing out the possibilities of unconsidered challenges we could be presented with.

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Hmm, that might be a whole other beast to discuss, I'll make a separate sticky for it

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I think the best plan of action for the initial boarding stage would be a little tactic called aggressive assault. It is used by the armed forces when they need to move forward on the battlefield quickly, but safely. Basically it goes like this.

Aggressive assault is a tactic that is used to move up on an enemy position. In a 2 man group one person fires while the other moves. In a 4 man group 2 people move while 2 people fire. The ones moving should announce when they are in position and open fire immediate on enemy to get their attention while the other members of their team move up. Again announce when they are in position and open fire on the enemy.

Basically it is a game of leap frog with guns that keeps a stream of fire down range constantly enabling a team to move forward rather quickly because the enemies heads are being keep down because of said stream of bullets. Knowing what we do i think this is our best course of action to invade a ship as it would enable our boarding teams to move quickly and safely through a situation.

Beyond that the team should be practice room clearing aka slicing the pie to enable the capturing of target rooms quickly and effectively.
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The term we used in the army is "bounding" and yes, that is the best way to move across a battlefield.

However, since this is essentially a building that we'd be clearing, unless the rooms are large, you probably shouldn't stop moving. Personally I would use bounding when under heavy fire, otherwise I'd be moving as a single unit:



As well as utilizing room clearing tactics, as it's a proven method:



But otherwise I agree with you, there should be constant communication. If there are enemies in the room, at least one person should be firing at a time to keep the enemy's head down. And we need to hit hard and fast to ensure they can't hit the self destruct button and make us have a bad day lol

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I think bounding as you put it would be more prevalent than you anticipate, especially when we are looking as ships the size of sky scraper aka king ships. Hangar bays that can hold 300 fighters are going to be huge and much like a open battlefield. CQB tactics will however be more prevalent once we get into the hallways of the ships. So i think both should be well understood and practiced before any boarding are attempted. BTW nice diagrams!
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Yeah I suppose you are right, we will be boarding a ship the size of Rhode Island lol. Once FPS module hits, we can work on training boarding parties

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When we did VBSS drills, we had to contend with small rooms and large hangar bays. Both room clearing and bounding are used, but the most part we only split into groups once we secured the ship's manifest and we had to make sure everyone (as well as the cargo) is accounted for.
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Which is another thing we should plan for.

Assuming the engines are disabled when boarding, what are the primary objectives? We will need to secure everything vital as quickly as possible to gain control and prevent a self destruct.

So once the boarding squads enter, they should divide their forces. One squad heads for the bridge to cut off command, and the other to secure whatever powers the self destruct.

From there it gets fun. The boarding party must then hold their ground against the Vanduul trying to retake the ship, while also dicing the ship into safe grounds.

We will have to bring in reinforcements and take wounded as quickly as possible as well, so my Cavalry unit and others like us must work well with SAR and lone wolves and Pirate crews

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It would also be interesting to see if we need to enter through the hangar or the airlocks or if it might be possible to ...create... new entrance points into the ship, maybe closer to critical areas than we could drop our boarding teams while being restricted to airlocks.
Also our tactics would probably depend on the interior design of vanduul ships. Do they use wide corridors that enable two or more marines to fire at the bacon at a time or narrow passages we could only pass through one soldier at a time? That's something we need to see and adjust our tactics to.
Another thing that came to my mind was the question of if and how we might be able to gain an interior map of a vanduul ship, since having to find critical areas without even knowing where to find them would result in a lot of confusion followed by lots of dying :-\.

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Another thing that came to my mind was the question of if and how we might be able to gain an interior map of a vanduul ship, since having to find critical areas without even knowing where to find them would result in a lot of confusion followed by lots of dying :-\.

Soon as they start pushing Bacon models out into the PU, I'll bet somebody starts ripping 'em apart in CryEngine to see what's modeled and starts taking notes or screencapping from there.
Anyone got a Con Andromeda Physical Goodies package you're thinking about melting for a Digital? Send me a note--maybe we can make a deal.

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Yeah I expect very detailed schematics for us to use as time progresses.

On the topic of "creating" our own openings in Vanduul ships, CR stated that there will be holes we can blow out of ships to board that way, but the spots will be set, we won't be able to choose exactly where to cut. But yeah that's a good option, blow a hole in the side of a kingship, watch hundreds of Vanduul float out into space, then fly in and give them a warm welcome ;)

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I would like to be on boarding duty as well, I can also be an engineer during flight.

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It would also be interesting to see if we need to enter through the hangar or the airlocks or if it might be possible to ...create... new entrance points into the ship, maybe closer to critical areas than we could drop our boarding teams while being restricted to airlocks.
Also our tactics would probably depend on the interior design of vanduul ships. Do they use wide corridors that enable two or more marines to fire at the bacon at a time or narrow passages we could only pass through one soldier at a time? That's something we need to see and adjust our tactics to.
Another thing that came to my mind was the question of if and how we might be able to gain an interior map of a vanduul ship, since having to find critical areas without even knowing where to find them would result in a lot of confusion followed by lots of dying :-\.

CR did mention the ability to enter through "missile holes" or "other manufactured/created damage" in a hull in one of the 10forC!
שם טוב ולא להיבחר מאשר עושר גדול, ואוהב לטובת ולא כסף וזהב. kJV Proverbs 22:1

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Yes,but he also said before that they can't just be created anywhere they are preset(To make the game easier to run.), so we would still need to know where to aim or get lucky with making an entrance.

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This was moved here from another section for ease. Bumping so you know it's still here :P