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Inquisition Fleet Board?
It seems that everyone is pretty much in agreement that there is going to be a scouting/game analysis phase. Being a pretty clear division, I'd make a subboard and it would look like so

Inquisition Fleet Operations - Main scouting and analysis board. Child boards would be:
- Inquisition Fleet Coordination - Central board where player organization would go because the child boards are going to dominate the selection.
- (vanduul vessel) Tactical Analysis - for analyzing specific ships, and what weapons and strategies are most effective against them
- (system) Report - for all vanduul-held systems, as well as all systems bordering them.

Thoughts?
  • Last Edit: February 01, 2014, 06:54:07 PM by Benjamin the Rogue

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I had typed up a 50k character message to Hike early on something completely different to only have it lost when the monitor powered off....

Mostly I was thinking
Command Room (General)
-Division Discussions (Discussions for Roles like Recon, Scout, or Medic, SAR, etc. etc.)
-Coordination Planning (Proposals and fleet plans with suggested assignment area's)
-Intel (Location to find info on enemy ship, forces, and other gathered resources in lore or in-game)
-Loadouts (Suggested Kit configurations for players deciding a role to play out... with notes on weapon tweaking and overclocking)
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I had typed up a 50k character message to Hike early on something completely different to only have it lost when the monitor powered off....


That doesn't make any sense ;D I like JackDaniels' proposal. Nicely covers all the different discussion types likely to happen.

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I like JackDaniels' proposal. Nicely covers all the different discussion types likely to happen.


Agreed, it would also integrate to other groups quite smoothly as opposed to requiring a separate board for each. Tough if that ends up being desired they could easily be spit into child boards of the "Division Discussions" board.

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Please don't call the scouting board "Inquisition" or anything along those lines.  While the word may literally be derived from inquire, it almost always refers to a religious (or at least quasi-religious) organisation operating along the lines of a secret police, or an internal investigation group, or an outside-the-law special task force.  I've always liked the term, "reconnaissance".  We chop it down to, "recon" in common speech and no-one gets the wrong idea about the members inside it.

If I may go even further, I have some suggestions for some layout tweaks that are just slightly different than yours, JackDaniels.

I see a couple of forums that don't seem to be needed.  I'd lose the "Not Operation Pitchfork" and "Lone Wolves and Independents" forums.  All that really seems to be going on in the first is LTI related.  I'd feel safe mixing this into a single general discussion forum that is currently "Operation Pitchfork".  It's like there is an off-topic, but on-SC forum, then an off-topic, off-SC forum.  I think it's just too much personally.  At this stage, if its about SC, it's probably relevant to all of us.  As for "Lone Wolves", after 41 views and not a single post aside from the rules, I think it's clear that people aren't really sure why it's there.  I feel strongly that well-named sub-forums specific to different roles will draw Lone Wolves into groups organically. 

I'm digging the idea of child boards to help group discussion as well as drive newcomers to their areas of interest.  In light of that, I'd like to see a layout like this:

Pitchfork - Command Room (A new forum category, split off from the hellos and the general discussion.)

  • The War Room (C&C, Admirals & Big Picture Discussions)

  • Reconnaissance (Scouting, Intelligence & Observation)

  • Boarding Operations (Breaching Hulls & Stealing Bacon-Powered Ships)

  • Bombardment (Bombers & Escorts)

  • Top Gun (Dogfighting & Interdiction)

  • After-Action (SAR & Salvage)



Xeriar, I'd like to point out I've omitted a "Loadout" sub-forum from my suggestion on purpose.  I think any post about ship selection and loadout would be extremely specific to each role, and therefore naturally at home in their respective sub-forums.

Please criticize, adopt or shoot down as you see fit.

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Please don't call the scouting board "Inquisition" or anything along those lines.  While the word may literally be derived from inquire, it almost always refers to a religious (or at least quasi-religious) organisation operating along the lines of a secret police, or an internal investigation group, or an outside-the-law special task force.  I've always liked the term, "reconnaissance".  We chop it down to, "recon" in common speech and no-one gets the wrong idea about the members inside it.

If I may go even further, I have some suggestions for some layout tweaks that are just slightly different than yours, JackDaniels.

I see a couple of forums that don't seem to be needed.  I'd lose the "Not Operation Pitchfork" and "Lone Wolves and Independents" forums.  All that really seems to be going on in the first is LTI related.  I'd feel safe mixing this into a single general discussion forum that is currently "Operation Pitchfork".  It's like there is an off-topic, but on-SC forum, then an off-topic, off-SC forum.  I think it's just too much personally.  At this stage, if its about SC, it's probably relevant to all of us.  As for "Lone Wolves", after 41 views and not a single post aside from the rules, I think it's clear that people aren't really sure why it's there.  I feel strongly that well-named sub-forums specific to different roles will draw Lone Wolves into groups organically. 

I'm digging the idea of child boards to help group discussion as well as drive newcomers to their areas of interest.  In light of that, I'd like to see a layout like this:

Pitchfork - Command Room (A new forum category, split off from the hellos and the general discussion.)

  • The War Room (C&C, Admirals & Big Picture Discussions)

  • Reconnaissance (Scouting, Intelligence & Observation)

  • Boarding Operations (Breaching Hulls & Stealing Bacon-Powered Ships)

  • Bombardment (Bombers & Escorts)

  • Top Gun (Dogfighting & Interdiction)

  • After-Action (SAR & Salvage)



Xeriar, I'd like to point out I've omitted a "Loadout" sub-forum from my suggestion on purpose.  I think any post about ship selection and loadout would be extremely specific to each role, and therefore naturally at home in their respective sub-forums.

Please criticize, adopt or shoot down as you see fit.


I don't see a problem with it, though I would suggest, rather strongly, that there be an intel section separate from the recon section. I say this because if someone is uninterested in recon they are unlikely to find it, and if they do may not feel comfortable posting if they think it's only for scouts. We need to be getting as much information as possible about the Vanduul ships and systems, if some guy in a hornet finds a way to take out a Scythe there needs to be a place they will know to post it so the rest of us, and as a result the OP as a whole, can benefit from it.

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I don't see a problem with it, though I would suggest, rather strongly, that there be an intel section separate from the recon section. I say this because if someone is uninterested in recon they are unlikely to find it, and if they do may not feel comfortable posting if they think it's only for scouts. We need to be getting as much information as possible about the Vanduul ships and systems, if some guy in a hornet finds a way to take out a Scythe there needs to be a place they will know to post it so the rest of us, and as a result the OP as a whole, can benefit from it.


I put some thought into this, but you are making me rethink it again.

Intelligence is useful information you can apply.  It is the result of recon and scouting.  The subjects are related but separate.  The subforum probably should be called Intelligence to encompass any useful info as you have suggested.

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I agree with a lot of what Talkyn has already said. The first thing I thought when I saw the title was, "Uh oh. We didn't remember to expect the Spanish Inquisition." It'd probably be better to stay away from that.

In regard to the LNW and Indy board, I'd rather keep it now just as a space for advertising ship openings. No one has posted in there yet, but we just might need a couple of seed posts so people feel encouraged to make their own. If it continues to go no where, we can always remove it later.

As for this:

Pitchfork - Command Room (A new forum category, split off from the hellos and the general discussion.)

  • The War Room (C&C, Admirals & Big Picture Discussions)

  • Reconnaissance (Scouting, Intelligence & Observation)

  • Boarding Operations (Breaching Hulls & Stealing Bacon-Powered Ships)

  • Bombardment (Bombers & Escorts)

  • Top Gun (Dogfighting & Interdiction)

  • After-Action (SAR & Salvage)




I like it. We just need another one for logistics, like refuelers, reloaders, and their escorts. I think if we can get The Convoy in on this they might be able to single-handedly take care of that issue themselves.

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I'm leaning towards Jaustin89's mode of thinking my self. "Intelligence" is also a little more commonly known and more broadly understood phrase. But we can kick it around with some other terminology as well. We could title it "Intelligence Tasking and Processing."

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Well if anything I like where this is headed but personally I am trying to keep the child boards a little divide into a general chat, till we get closer to release, better chances for planning and organizing individuals. I maybe should have flushed out my view on what I had said... but for me it was something I was trying to talk to Hike about... so he and I could keep moderating this very loosely for now.

One of the things right now that Xeriar did point out during a discussion that he didn't want to have a board up that would have little to no use for anything right now... So I am just planning out my child board ladder as just something best suited for right now to organize the topics we already have and the potential topics we could have during the Dog fight Module... and any additional questions and answers that come from interviews, lore, or wingman's hangar.


Command Room (General board for general Command room talk)
-Division Discussions (Discussions for Roles like Recon, Scout, or Medic, SAR, etc. etc.)
--(To talk about what could be planned out for each role and different ways of covering them.)
-Coordination Planning (Proposals and fleet plans with suggested assignment area's)
--Organizations pick a location and sign up for what proposals they like and what sections of that proposal they are going to be apart of and if not the location they will be supporting from.
-Intel (Location to find info on enemy ship, forces, and other gathered resources in lore or in-game)
--General intel in similar relation to the Wiki, but mostly including the findings and some helpful info that may have been overlooked for the Wiki or vital to planning of the Operation Proposals
-Loadouts (Suggested Kit configurations for players deciding a role to play out... with notes on weapon tweaking and overclocking)
--Mostly think of it like the Armory, Quartermaster, and what ever have you for info that can be found for suggestions to other pilots on what could be a decent build as a quick summary for those that talked about it in another board about perfect ship configurations or tweaks. Could even double for Boarding action kit informatiom.

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    Pitchfork - Command Room (A new forum category, split off from the hellos and the general discussion.)

    • The War Room (C&C, Admirals & Big Picture Discussions)

    • Reconnaissance (Scouting, Intelligence & Observation)

    • Boarding Operations (Breaching Hulls & Stealing Bacon-Powered Ships)

    • Bombardment (Bombers & Escorts)

    • Top Gun (Dogfighting & Interdiction)

    • After-Action (SAR & Salvage)


    SAR isn't after-action. Can't leave a player floating in space for an hour. I'd suggest putting it in a Support division that includes the supply chain (making sure we have enough missiles and supplies for repairs) as well as the repair and rearm crews.[/list]
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      SAR isn't after-action. Can't leave a player floating in space for an hour. I'd suggest putting it in a Support division that includes the supply chain (making sure we have enough missiles and supplies for repairs) as well as the repair and rearm crews.



    I don't mean to knit pick here but you do realize that we still have a year for all this and I can re-arrange the boards later to better suite what is available in the game as far as mechanics go?
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      SAR isn't after-action. Can't leave a player floating in space for an hour. I'd suggest putting it in a Support division that includes the supply chain (making sure we have enough missiles and supplies for repairs) as well as the repair and rearm crews.



    From what I know about the death mechanics, you will never be left floating in space for an hour.  SAR to me means trying to extract pilots that are still floating out there, or crews stuck aboard inoperative larger vessels (perhaps Vanduul ones).


    I don't mean to knit pick here but you do realize that we still have a year for all this and I can re-arrange the boards later to better suite what is available in the game as far as mechanics go?


    Sorry JD, we are just so excited  ;D

    You are right to take a forum make-over slow at this point.  Too many boards with too few posts can lead to a dead forum right quick.

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    Sorry JD, we are just so excited  ;D

    You are right to take a forum make-over slow at this point.  Too many boards with too few posts can lead to a dead forum right quick.

    Hey, its okay. I know you mean best but I want to keep us from already burning ourselves out or giving newer followers to the operation an informational overload or having to scour the forums to find exactly what they are looking for at this point.

    So I am going to assume from what we know now and what we can theory craft about, so far. In relate to potentially being used during the Modular testing.... that the board layout planned by me, Xeriar, or yourself  will meet the needs till next year?

    Don't worry we can change things when we need to, and have too.
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    Hmmm...  Simplified structure until volume merits the additional child boards sounds good.

    How about:

    General Discussion - Anything SC & OP
    War Room - All strategic discussions, role mustering, etc
    Intelligence - All OP-Specific Information: System Info, Ship Loadouts, Scouting, Reconnaissance, Vanduul-Fighing Tips

    And the other boards pretty much as is.

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    That's looking a lot more cleaned up and streamlined. I like the look of that better than how things are right now.

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    Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition! 8)

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    Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition! 8)


    NO ONE!

    *waves around torch*

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    Sorry for that, couldn't resist.  ;D Anyways I second to the vote that we should call this intel, information gathering (info?) or scouting board instead of inquisition.

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    SAR actually IS an after action operation. Due to the way instancing works our SAR operators won't be able to get to the floating pilots until AFTER all the vanduul are dead in that instance, unless of course we want to use dog fighter spots for SAR pilots...
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    Well yeah, of course we would, Jonais. There are lots of support roles we have to leave slots for.

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    As ships are destroyed, SAR can go in to keep more Vanduul from filling in the new slots. They can then also pick up pilots and bring them out, so then we can get more combat ready ships into the fight to take their place.

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    OK so then for re-naming the board and helping to keep all additional child boards and discussions in those sections the one that I proposed is fine?
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    I think everyone agrees with the name change.

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    OK then I guess some time this weekend we will get started re-sorting and re-organizing the boards again...
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